I’m a sucker for punishment. I really am. I tend to get myself into trouble because I feel compelled to argue about topics that I know are bound to get people into their emotions. I did that the last couple of weeks with talking about Michael Jackson and I’m about to do it again with talking about religion. Well, I’m not really going to talk about religion. I’m going to talk about Creationist/Intelligent Design.  Let’s get one thing perfectly clear. Creationists are idiots. Well, maybe that’s a little harsh.  It’s not that they are idiots, its that what they believe in and promote is absolutely fucknuts insane. Listen, we all do stupid things (while writing this I took a gulp of steaming hot tea and now I can’t feel my tongue or esophagus), but it bothers me immensely when something that is clearly false is being pushed as being just as relevant as the truth.
Now I’m no stranger to shitting on the idiotic beliefs of Creationists.  This all started for me a couple of years ago when I was watching my favorite comedy show (Fox & Friends).  They brought on this guy who looked like Abraham Lincoln named Ken Ham and he had just built a museum that was to show the “Christian Alternative” to Evolution.  I laughed my ass off because I thought it was a joke.  I didn’t think there really were nutcases out there that could believe that crap.  As Lewis Black would say “The Scopes Trial is over, there’s nothing more to discuss.”  My laughter slowly turned to “What the fuck?” when I realized there were actually a good number of people that agreed with this loony bin.  I mean, this guy’s museum has dinosaurs and people walking around together like it’s the Flintstones.  Not only that, but apparently the guides explain that T Rex and other predators have long teeth not for ripping flesh…but for cracking….wait for it….wait for it….coconuts.  I’m sorry but anyone that thinks T Rex was chomping down on coconuts with those razor sharp teeth should be strapped up and locked in a padded room for their own safety.  You might think that’s crazy but the real crazy thing is the museum is exceeding attendance marks.  That’s right, it’s popular. That’s what’s scariest. Add to that the fact that 3 of the Republicans that tried to get their party nomination for the 2008 election didn’t believe in evolution and then there was the news I read yesterday about Governor Rick Perry of Texas appointing a Creationist as the head of the State Board of Education  and one has to think this country has permanently sunk into lunacy.  And we wonder why our education system is so screwy. Putting a woman who isn’t a teacher but instead a newspaper editor as head of the Board of Education is stupid.  But putting one that thinks we need to teach the “alternative” to evolution to our kids is just asinine.  The alternative to evolution is fairytale bullshit not supported by any form of fact. If we’re going to do that then we might as well start presenting ghost stories and legends like Zorro and Paul Bunyan as historical fact.
I know the major sticking point with evolution for people is they don’t want to believe they came from monkeys. Well fucknuts…unless your mother and father were a chimp, you didn’t come from monkey, you came from a human.  Evolution explains how organisms on Earth change in their genetic material from generation to generation over a period of time(A long period of time. The Earth is not 6,000 years old like some of these assclowns believe)…and…it’s backed up by scientific fact.  Yes, evolution is a “theory” but if Creationists really believe that is reason enough to question it, then one can only hope that they all jump off a really high cliff to test out the Theory of Gravity.
I take this issue to heart because its unbelievable that this is still “up for debate.”  When I hear someone tell me they don’t believe in Evolution my brain comes to a screeching halt as if it was involved in a massive 20 car pileup on I-495.  Its as ludicrous as an adult telling me that they still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny but worse because these people pass on their ignorance to their children and their children’s children.  If you want to believe the Earth was created in 6 days, that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, that dinosaurs walked the earth with people and that Velociraptors were cuddly pets that ate bananas (that long toe claw was for easy peeling) then by all means do you.  If its just too much for you to fathom that modern day human linage can be traced back to early primates and you want to ignore the fact that people have evolved, then continue to waddle in your ignorance.  But don’t teach that bullshit to your kids. Just like racism can be passed on from generation to generation so can your own ignorance. Creationism and it’s bastardized red headed step child called “Intelligent Design” should be kept as far away from schools as possible. People used to think the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around it because they didn’t want little things like FACTS to get in the way of their ignorance.  That’s no different than what’s going on here. Believing in evolution doesn’t lessen your faith.  I happen to believe the God gave us common sense for a reason.  There are plenty of ways for God to test your faith.  God didn’t need to create fake fossils or back date the Earth’s blueprints so that it would throw off Carbon Dating.  The facts are the facts. Learn to live with them.
We should teach kids evolution to compete in the world. But, I’m not buying that this whole world just kinda sprang up after some hap-hazard series of events. I believe God created the world. And, I believe God facilitated evolution. I always wonder why God can’t be behind science; and we tend to take this “all or nothing” approach. That’s what’s nuts. Whether you believe in God or not is irrelevant…God still exists. So with that in mind, I wonder why people even argue this. Evolution took place. It’s still taking place. That much I do agree with you on. And…it’s all in God’s plan. I guess that’s where we’ll have to agree to disagree.
I’m sorry, which god was it that exists? Zeus, Apollo, Mithra, Ra , GOD, Allah, Buddah, or one of mans other theological concoctions. Of course there’s not a shred of evidence that any of them actually exist.
Buddah isn’t a god.
Whether you believe in God or not is irrelevant…God DOES NOT exist. So with that in mind, I wonder why people even argue this
Unless you believe in a mass psychological facade effect, then you’re probably right.
You’re shitting me right?
I agree. There are many religious people and many atheists who insist that you can’t accept evolution and still believe in god – and yet millions upon millions of people do!
I’m an atheist, but I am just happy when religious people don’t deny evolution. If they want to believe a god is behind it, at least they are nit denying established science.
Oh I believe evolution was God’s plan. I just argue against people that take the Bible literally and believe obviously false things like the Earth is only 6,000 years old. Things like that just aren’t up for discussion to me.
Kris, I misunderstood and we see eye to eye. LOL! Seriously though, why does it have to be this “one or the other” type belief with people? If you go to a Christian or Catholic school maybe they will teach you creationism-only there, but you get what you pay for. Otherwise, why would anyone want their kid to learn creationism-only? That’s the equivalent to making your child learn that babies come from storks, immaculate conception or something equally as stupid. (and untrue)
Evolutionists are stupid RICHARD DAWKINS is a numbskull,JOHN HORNER is a jerk
That is an accurate statement. God Bless.
youre an idiot. i hope they take your kids away
Whether you believe in God or not is irrelavent……God does not exist, so why bother with this argument at all.
You dont think very hard do you Mo
Why can’t God be behind science? God has stood in the way of science for thousands of year, and as each new discovery and with each passing year, the stories become less and less excepted.
The bible teaches that the earth was created by god in 7 days, and snakes could talk.
This, as you openly admit, is just not possible, it is, quite obviously, a story.
So why belive the rest of that book?
There is NO evidence, what so-over, to support the belief of a divine entity, whether its the Christian God, or Thor the norse god of thunder.
Saying that God uses evoloution for some sort of divine plan is a cop-out, and putting God behind science, any science, simply raises mroe questions than it answers.
Cosmic Condor
Thank you for showing us the level you people work at and clearing up the level of intelligence you hold (not very much), now we call see how the brain of a creationist works, and its an amazingly simple brain! and all from one sentance! now go an pray for forgivness for your rant
I know this is a late comment, but I Agree with Name. Well, I was born and raised an orthodox, but We’re not really religious, and now I’m doubting a god. If there is any “god” it’s your conscience. And all this creationist stuff is stupid. I’m in middle school and there’s a creationist girl at my school and we get in huge fights. And for some reason she thinks christians should only date christians, no matter if they’re creationist or not. I get pissed of easily with creationists….
anyone who believes in god is a fucking idiot might as well believe in santa clous or the tooth fairy hahahaha just like the picture from family guy says creationist are below retards way below hahaha idiots. Religion is the cause of the major wars in history and still the cause why we haven’t all got together as a one human race an help each other i hope a black plague kills everyone of you nutcases who believe in anything religious hahahaha.
After reading your “thesis” I had to laugh. Your spelling and punctuation are evidently a synopsis of your mental and intellectual condition. Hey sportie, you can’t take God out of the equation! He is not yours to decide who believes in Him. Let me pose a challenge to you, Sportie: read God’s words as contained in the Holy Bible, then you will be better equipped to try to take it apart. It’s that simple.
You might be an atheist if you claim antibiotic-resistant bacteria is proof protozoa evolved into a person.
Oh dear. After reading this post, I had a quite a bit to say. After reading the comments, I had more than just a bit to say. Here goes.
There really is no evidence for evolution. Okay, there’s none for MACRO-evolution. I thoroughly support Micro-evolution. As in, developing better eyesight over several generations due to poor lighting. And yes, there are nutcases in the world that just so happen to support certain viewpoints. There are evolutionist nutcases as well. Buddhist nutcases. Muslim nutcases. Christian nutcases. Politician nutcases. Black nutcases. White nutcases. Poor nutcases. Rich nutcases. Middle class nutcases. I think you get the point.
That having been said, unless I actually see some physical evidence (No, not the fossil record – 95% of the fossil record consists of clans, and the Geological column is a theoretical formulation) that actually does show the progression of one species to another, it seems like a fairy-tale to me. Darwin believed that, if one species could make minor changes to itself over several generations (Like the cave-dweller example I provided earlier), why, then, ridicule the idea that species could evolve into a completely different one? Because genes are limited. A mouse, regardless of the certain TYPE of mouse, has very different genes, amino acids, proteins, etc. than a rabbit, or even a hamster. Extremely different. And this is besides the fact that in order to change genes so drastically, the organism would die. And, uh, not come back to life. Evar. Am I missing a part of Darwinism? I’m no scientist, as most of us are not as well, but if genes in a certain species are limited, how can I expect them to change to match another species’ pool?
Ridiculing others because they disagree with you gets one nowhere. I think we can all at least agree upon that. I understand that MANY creationists you may have met have been rather rude, and downright stupid. Oh yeah. But we get that a lot from you guys as well. Now that I’ve said that, let’s move on. =]
One doesn’t have to be a Darwinist just because they’re an atheist, or vice-versa. Does this make sense? For example, I’m Christian (tries to live by the New Testament – to Christians, the OT is obsolete when it comes to life guidelines), but I could be a Darwinist (Which I’m not). See? It could be a case of criss or crossing. =P
Let’s delve into the more complex side of this debate (Athiests Vs. Christians, not Darwinists Vs. Creationists). I’ll even provide a personal example. My cousin, Matt, was driving his black 2009 Mustang GT in LA. Some gangbangers mistook his Mustang for the vehicle driven by a leader of a rivaling gang and proceeded to unload nearly 205 rounds into his car from their UMP 45′s. None of them hit him directly. He got away with a bullet graze wound on the back of his head. An inch to the left and he would have died on the spot. As a Christian, I interpreted this as a miracle. Interpreted. Many others might do the same, but with a different viewpoint on miracles. My other cousin Colette had a close shave when a tree fell on her Volvo during a storm. All around here, glass powder lay. At least, just 4 inches away from her, entirely. The rest of the glass was huge shards resembling steak knives. Not those puny kitchen steak knives, I mean the ones your dad uses to carve the Turkey on thanksgiving. Yeah, THOSE. I interpreted this as a God-given/Guardian-Angel-given miracle. The key word here is interpret. We may all interpret data and use reason in any way we want to, but the universe is so incomprehensibly vast and mysterious that no one’s right until God calls his followers home, or we actually record one species changing into another. Humans took proper records of life thousands of years ago, and those are the oldest we know of. Humans, in that day and age, were actually rather intelligent. But considering that Darwinisms generally states that Macro-evolution occurs over billions of years, no one has actually seen it yet. It’s like me saying that I saw green naked dudes running around in the amazon forest, their green skin being full of Chlorophyll in order to produce energy. There may very well be a tribe like that, but I have never seen it, thus, it does not exist.
In short, both side has theoretical evidence that makes sense only for those who produce it and not at all for the opposition. I interpret these uncanny happenings as the subtle touches of God and the spiritual world, but others might simply call them coincidences. I hope this makes sense. ;D
After this is sorted through, then comes the personal beliefs of any given individual, etc, etc. It’s very complicated.
As for Global Warming, it’s theoretical. yes, the Antarctic peninsula IS indeed melting, but many scientists fail to mention that the rest of Antarctica (Which is 80% larger than the peninsula, rest assured) is actually building up. What’s more is that over the past 100 years, Carbon Dioxide levels have risen 200 PPM over the past 150 years. 150 years. 200 parts per MILLION. That’s 200/1,000,000. In other words, .0002% of the atmosphere has been partitioned for Carbon Dioxide over the past 150 years. And what’s more is that this is over 150 years. Sure, if it had been steadily rising over the course of 1,000 years, global warming would make sense. However, even over 1,000 years, .0002% is nothing. Unnoticeable. Yeah.
Instead of ridiculing one another, both sides should look over the fact that we ALL have nutcases that don’t know a thing about what they’re spouting and at least talk it over with those who are capable of holding an intelligent discussion. Comment, Criticize, Praise this post, whicher you want. Am I missing a large part of Darwinistic beliefs, or am I spot on? Don’t use curse words, please. Both sides have valid arguments; I simply agree with one instead of the other.
I meant “Clams”, not “Clans”. Oopsies. xD
So-called “macro-evolution” is nothing but the accumulation of small changes (micro-evolution) over time. So in your 2nd paragraph you admitted to accepting evolution. Case closed.
I’d refute each of your points, but I don’t have that kind of time, especially considering that if you really wanted to know, the answers are all at your fingertips. But it’s not that you don’t believe evolution. It’s that you don’t want to believe. And that trumps all facts, doesn’t it?
Mo, it’s interesting to see that Darwinism is taught exclusively in public schools. Weird, riiight? :O
Unless you can provide statistics and more fossils than just clams, and unless you can stop saying “We’re right, you’re dumba**es” (WHich is literally all you’ve done so far) to actually DO this, no one will respect you OR your views. There’s a certain etiquette to debate that – and it seems to ring true with many evolutionists AND creationists – that you just don’t understand quite yet.
Give me statistics and non-controversial “fossil links”, please. This is my plea, and if you do not produce these, well, I simply cannot believe you OR respect the way you go about spreading your views;
What should they teach creationism Buddhism islasm Aztec creation beliefs evolution is the theory with the most evidence and it MAKES SINCE
The 2nd Law of thermodynamics states that life becomes simpler over time, not more complex. Evolution requires life to grow to be more complex over time. This is a CLEAR contradiction to science. And where are the transitional fossils? Sure, we see microevolution within a species, but never going from one species to another. The lack of pure evidence and observation is almost upsurd. Instead of censoring the facts that contradict evoution, teach and debate the controversy. The study of Piltdown man was the most upsurd case of frauduent science I have ever seen. Over 50 PhDs were presented to students, and it was not even a real fossil. And radiometric dating requires many assumptions that are VERY, VERY innaccurate; 1) That the decay was constant. 2) How much Carbon 14 or Pb was in the stubstance; 3) o outside forces acted upon the sample.
Sarah, the 2nd law of thermodynamics doesn’t say what you think it does.
1) The second law of thermodynamics applies only to closed systems. The earth is not a closed system; it receives heat and light from the sun.
2) The second law of thermodynamics deals with entropy, not complexity. Entropy deals with the amount of heat, in a system, that is not available to do work.
3) If anything, the second law of thermodynamics only disproves the idea of perpetual motion devices.
first of all let me just say that whoever wrote this article is an absolute birthing accident, and was probably born from apes or some bullshit, The authors is an atheist, a heathen, and may as well be a pagan since he probably worships al gore and other people who create fictional bullshit to make Americans believe their idiotic propaganda. So go take a hike jackass!
We don’t worship Al Gore. What is wrong with being atheist? When I look up and see the stars at night, I realize how insignificant religion is. We are god’s chosen people so you say. There are untold billions of planets out there and he just chose this one planet? And he doesn’t watch over it very well considering the number of diseases and genocides that have happened. Evolution isn’t set in stone and neither is science. Science changes constantly because we learn more each day.
Funny enough several studies all over the world show that the average intelligence of people is lower if they are more religious. Just check the decline in the Middle East many hundreds of years ago when religion started to dominate.
Honestly, evolution sounds like it was created by a mental patient. It is a theory that nothing exploded to create a world with nothing that suddenly decided it needed a living thing so it invented tiny single celled protozoa that aside from being still here, could change their genetic code to change into another species. One species does not change into another species. It is just plain ludicrous. If it was that evolution was proved correct, then please show me evidence that animals are evolving into new and spectacular animals.